Before and After Paragraph spacing

If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. <sigh>

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:87AA8CD3-019B-434B-9C9F-3255AC5A17E0@microsoft.com...
> It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after posted.
> And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
>
>
> "DeanH" wrote:
>
>> Apologies for the repeated solution.
>> The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
>> Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
>> Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
>> Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
>>
>> DeanH
>>
>>
>> "Terry Hollands" wrote:
>>
>> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
>> > 'pt' to
>> > 'cm'?
>> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave a
>> > space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
>> > helpful.
>> > Thanks.
>> > --
>> > Terry Hollands

Greg had not seen your and Stefan's postings, because the three of you
posted nearly simultaneously. My posting was not offered as help to
Terry, who got good advice from you and Stefan and less good advice
from Greg, who gave the appearance of being unaware that Word will
translate measures typed in a measurement box into other units without
the intervention of the user..

On Nov 2, 12:02 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnh... RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote:
> While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that those
> connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not a bad
> idea.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org
>
> "Greg Maxey" <gma... RemoveThis @mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote in message
>
> news:%23Ct%23Mw9WKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Mr. Daniels,
>
> > Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
> > posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously.  I'll take my nails and hammers
> > over your empty box any day.
>
> > Cheers.
>
> > --
> > Greg Maxey
>
> > See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> > for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.
>
> > "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma... RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> >news:61e83378-8598-4940-a8f1-01763d8b0e1b@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com....
> > Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
> > After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
> > to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
> > the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.
>
> > On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
> > <gma... RemoveThis @mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote:
> >> Terry,
>
> >> AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
> >> using
> >> Tools>Options>General>Measurement units but this has no effect on the
> >> units
> >> used in space before or after.
>
> >> Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
> >> points
> >> using:
>
> >> Sub GetPointEquivelent()
> >> MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
> >> End Sub
>
> >> Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
> >> before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
> >> directly using:
>
> >> Sub ScratchMaco()
> >> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
> >> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
> >> End Sub
>
> >> But again Word rounds it to 85.05.
>
> >> See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm
>
> >> Terry Hollands wrote:
> >> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
> >> > 'pt' to 'cm'?
> >> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
> >> > a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
> >> > helpful. Thanks.
>
> >> --
> >> Greg Maxey
>
> >> See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> >> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.-

We know that; it's been reported in the private NGs. Unfortunately, the
people in charge of this can't seem to figure out what the problem is. The
fact is that NNTP is on its way out; we've been told that all MS NNTP NGs
are going to be phased out and moved to online forums at some point (no
timeline has been given).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:c973a89c-ffad-4814-bbff-00c7692105b9@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
The messages are showing up (as promptly as usual) in google groups,
whether posted to the newsgroup or to the MS interface, so it must be
the MS interface that's acting up.

On Nov 2, 10:25 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnh....TakeThisOut@mvps.org> wrote:
> If NNTP is not being propagated, then I'm wasting my time again. <sigh>
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org
>
> "Stefan Blom" <StefanB....TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:87AA8CD3-019B-434B-9C9F-3255AC5A17E0@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> > It seems to take a long time before messages become visible after
> > posted.
> > And, once again, messages posted via NNTP don't show up.
>
> > --
> > Stefan Blom
> > Microsoft Word MVP
>
> > "DeanH" wrote:
>
> >> Apologies for the repeated solution.
> >> The newsgroup seems to be out-of-sync, Express says no answers yet, MS
> >> Discussion, shows none, and Google Groups show 4!
> >> Also Notification Replies not working either (not for a long time).
> >> Has the problem been reported, being worked on? Anyone out there?
> >>
> >> DeanH
>
> >> "Terry Hollands" wrote:
>
> >> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
> >> > 'pt' to
> >> > 'cm'?
> >> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
> >> > a
> >> > space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
> >> > helpful.
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > --
> >> > Terry Hollands-

Mr. Daniels,

Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
over your empty box any day.

Cheers.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:61e83378-8598-4940-a8f1-01763d8b0e1b@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.

On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
<gma....RemoveThis@mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote:
> Terry,
>
> AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters using
> Tools>Options>General>Measurement units but this has no effect on the
> units
> used in space before or after.
>
> Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to points
> using:
>
> Sub GetPointEquivelent()
> MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
> End Sub
>
> Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
> before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
> directly using:
>
> Sub ScratchMaco()
> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
> End Sub
>
> But again Word rounds it to 85.05.
>
> See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm
>
> Terry Hollands wrote:
> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
> > 'pt' to 'cm'?
> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
> > a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
> > helpful. Thanks.
>
> --
> Greg Maxey
>
> See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that those
connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not a bad
idea.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" <gmaxey RemoveThis @mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote in message
news:%23Ct%23Mw9WKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Daniels,
>
> Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
> posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
> over your empty box any day.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Greg Maxey
>
> See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:61e83378-8598-4940-a8f1-01763d8b0e1b@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
> After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
> to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
> the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.
>
> On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
> <gma... RemoveThis @mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote:
>> Terry,
>>
>> AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
>> using
>> Tools>Options>General>Measurement units but this has no effect on the
>> units
>> used in space before or after.
>>
>> Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
>> points
>> using:
>>
>> Sub GetPointEquivelent()
>> MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
>> End Sub
>>
>> Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
>> before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
>> directly using:
>>
>> Sub ScratchMaco()
>> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
>> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
>> End Sub
>>
>> But again Word rounds it to 85.05.
>>
>> See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm
>>
>> Terry Hollands wrote:
>> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
>> > 'pt' to 'cm'?
>> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
>> > a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
>> > helpful. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Greg Maxey
>>
>> See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.
>
>

Ms. Barnhill,

The repetition is one thing and perfectly acceptable. The pretense that the
dilettante had anything to offer before reading your post is another.
Apparently Mr. Daniels leveraged the macro (or the result it provides) to
realize that 85.05 points is as close as Word will get when setting
paragraph spacing to 3 cm.

--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill.RemoveThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uJpHZ79WKHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> While Peter may have been able to see my post, it's quite likely that
> those connnecting through the MS Communities cannot, so repetition is not
> a bad idea.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> http://word.mvps.org
>
> "Greg Maxey" <gmaxey.RemoveThis@mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote in message
> news:%23Ct%23Mw9WKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Daniels,
>>
>> Thank you for passing on what you have learned from Ms. Barnhill's reply
>> posted 2 hours and 6 minutes previously. I'll take my nails and hammers
>> over your empty box any day.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> Greg Maxey
>>
>> See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.
>>
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:61e83378-8598-4940-a8f1-01763d8b0e1b@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>> Once again, nails and hammers. If you type "3 cm" into the "Space
>> After" (or "Space Before") box, Word gives you spacing that's as close
>> to 3 cm as it can get. No need either for a macro, or for calculating
>> the pt equivalent of the cm measurement.
>>
>> On Nov 2, 8:16 am, "Greg Maxey"
>> <gma....RemoveThis@mIKEvICTORpAPAsIERRA.oSCARrOMEOgOLF> wrote:
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> AFAIK, no. You can change the default unit of measure to centimeters
>>> using
>>> Tools>Options>General>Measurement units but this has no effect on the
>>> units
>>> used in space before or after.
>>>
>>> Even programmatically you can only get close. You can convert cm to
>>> points
>>> using:
>>>
>>> Sub GetPointEquivelent()
>>> MsgBox CentimetersToPoints(3)
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> Which returns 85.03937. However if this value is entered into the space
>>> before or after field Word rounds it to 85.05. You could also set it
>>> directly using:
>>>
>>> Sub ScratchMaco()
>>> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceBefore = CentimetersToPoints(3)
>>> Selection.ParagraphFormat.SpaceAfter = CentimetersToPoints(3)
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> But again Word rounds it to 85.05.
>>>
>>> See:http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm
>>>
>>> Terry Hollands wrote:
>>> > Is it possible to change the spacing before and after paragraphs from
>>> > 'pt' to 'cm'?
>>> > I have a student doing some text processing and she is asked to leave
>>> > a space of 3cm between a paragraph. Any other suggestions would be
>>> > helpful. Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg Maxey
>>>
>>> See my web sitehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org
>>> for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.
>>
>>
>