Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font

On Nov 25, 12:15 am, Character <C... DeleteThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
> Searcher7wrote:
> > On Nov 24, 9:14 pm, Character <C... DeleteThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
>
> >>Searcher7wrote:
>
> >>>On Nov 24, 7:58 pm, Character <C... DeleteThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
>
> >>>>Searcher7wrote:
>
> >>>>>I have a document that I need to print out.
>
> >>>>>Originally I thought I'd have to print out almost 200 pages, but then
> >>>>>found while experimenting with all the available fonts in WordPad(on
> >>>>>my old system which had WindowsMe) that the LinePrinter font lined up
> >>>>>the text the way it was supposed to be(Unlike almost all the other
> >>>>>fonts), and it also mae the text small enough to allow the document to
> >>>>>be printed out in only 89 pages.
>
> >>>>>Unfortunately, my old system is too screwed up for my printer to work
> >>>>>with it, so I had to connect a new(Windows XP) system to the internet.
>
> >>>>>The problem is that the WordPad documents on this new system do not
> >>>>>have the same fonts as on my old system, and LinePrinter is no where
> >>>>>to be found.
>
> >>>>>Can someone tell me how to correct this situation? Or recommend an
> >>>>>even better font for my purposes if such a font exists?
>
> >>>>>Thanks a lot.
>
> >>>>>Darren Harris
> >>>>>Staten Island, New York.
>
> >>>>Just copy the font from the system it's on to the one that doesn't
> >>>>have it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>>I wich I knew how to do that. I had put "LinePrinter* *" in the search
> >>>and came up with hundreds of hits. I have no idea exactly what I'm
> >>>supposed to be looking for.
>
> >>>Thanks.
>
> >>>Darren Harris
> >>>Staten Island, New York
>
> >>How about just using any mono-spaced font such as
> >> Courier
> >> Andale Mono
> >> Consolas downloadable directly from Microsoft at
> >> http://tinyurl.com/qxzuw
>
> >>and adjusting the character spacing and point size to fit. HP's
> >>Lineprinter font is set for 16.66 characters per inch and an 8.5 point
> >>size (I'm not sure what the line-to-line spacing is supposed to be)
>
> >>WordPad may not be up to the task - WordPerfect or MSWord or just
> >>about anything else will allow you make the character spacing adjustments.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > The reason I want LinePrinter is because it allowed the smallest text
> > of all the fonts available on my old WindowsMe system.
>
> That font was probably installed with an hp printer driver. You should
> be able to find it in C:\windows\fonts (the FILE name will not be
> "line printer", but that's where it will be.

After several hours(more) on this the only option was to copy most of
the 60 files I got with that search. It wasn't easy since the floppy
drive barely works and many of the files are larger than a floppy
disk's capacity.

> > Another issue is that on my XP system I cannot determine how many
> > pages a document is in WordPad *before* I print it out. When I open
> > the document the little notations show which page I'm looking at do
> > not pop up when using the vertical slider. So that is another problem
> > I have to solve.
>
> Yes, it's clumsy. What you can do is select file/print preview;
> and then hold the pagedown key while it rapidly goes through all the
> pages. It will stop at the last page, and the page number is shown
> down in the lower left corner. You can then either close the preview
> window (with the "close" button) or decide to print.

There is no slider, so I had to use the page next. The total number
was 106 pages(using Lucida Console at 8 pt. type). I have to learn how
to manipulate the margins,but I think they are at default, which is
what I'd want anyway.

> To try different fonts and font sizes, click on the text, press Ctrl-A
> to select ALL, then change your font/size selection. You can leave it
> selected when you go to Print Preview to see the results.

I just Select all, then click "Format", then "Font", then I select the
Font and click "OK".

Anyway, since I was unablbe to upload the FOnts to my Verizon e-mail
for some reason, I copied as many Font files from my old system as I
could to floppy disks. But I have no idea which one is LinePrinter(if
I got it copied).

I can't copy from the floppy disks to the Font folder on my new
system, or even from a folder I created on my desktop. I couldn't even
get most of the fonts from the floppy disks to my desktop folder. And
for those that made it I had to copy one at a time.

The goal of printing out this document started two months ago.(See
"Help: Two Sided Printing" in "comp.periphs.printers"). And after
getting a maintenance kit which included more ram for my HP LaserJet
2100TN and putting together a whole new PC system(which was hell in
and of itself) I am no closer to getting it done despite help from the
following groups:

"Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font"
"microsoft.public.word.printingfonts"

"Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font" "comp.fonts"

"LaserJet 2100TN: Drivers and Fonts" "comp.periphs.printers"

I had promised to copy and send this document out to someone who is
um...socially restricted at the moment. So it looks like I wasted
another weekend, and I'll have no choice but to pay to have this @#$%!
document printed out at a store that does that, because all the
hardware and software I have has been useless to me.

Thanks to everyone for trying.

Darren Harris
Statebn Island, New York.

On Nov 25, 10:39 am, "David E. Ross" <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.not> wrote:
> On 11/24/2007 7:42 PM,Searcher7wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have a document that I need to print out.
>
> > Originally I thought I'd have to print out almost 200 pages, but then
> > found while experimenting with all the available fonts in WordPad(on
> > my old system which had WindowsMe) that the LinePrinter font lined up
> > the text the way it was supposed to be(Unlike almost all the other
> > fonts), and it also mae the text small enough to allow the document to
> > be printed out in only 89 pages.
>
> > Unfortunately, my old system is too screwed up for my printer to work
> > with it, so I had to connect a new(Windows XP) system to the internet.
>
> > The problem is that the WordPad documents on this new system do not
> > have the same fonts as on my old system, and LinePrinter is no where
> > to be found.
>
> > Can someone tell me how to correct this situation? Or recommend an
> > even better font for my purposes if such a font exists?
>
> > Thanks a lot.
>
> > Darren Harris
> > Staten Island, New York.
>
> There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed
> in Windows. Even if it's a printer font (downloaded to your printer),
> you cannot view a document using a font unless it's also installed in
> Windows. Since you do indeed see your document with the LinePrinter
> font, it must be installed in your WindowsMe.
>
> To locate the font file:
>
> 1. On the taskbar at the bottom of your desktop, select [Start >
> Settings > Control Panel] (or the equivalent in WindowsMe).
>
> 2. On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Fonts icon.
>
> 3. On the menu bar of the Fonts window, select [View > Details].
>
> You should see the font files displayed with both the font names and
> their file names. You can double-click on a font icon to get a display
> of the font.

I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it
is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then
Font. It is one of the selections.

> After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your
> Windows XP PC:

I'm not sure what you mean by temporary folder, but I assume that
doesn't mean to make a new folder on the desktop, correct?

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On 11/25/2007 10:06 PM, Searcher7 wrote:
> On Nov 25, 10:39 am, I previously wrote [in part]:
>> There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed
>> in Windows. Even if it's a printer font (downloaded to your printer),
>> you cannot view a document using a font unless it's also installed in
>> Windows. Since you do indeed see your document with the LinePrinter
>> font, it must be installed in your WindowsMe.
>>
[snipped instructions for finding font files]
>
> I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it
> is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then
> Font. It is one of the selections.

Previously, you said "Wordpad", which uses the installed fonts. You now
say "Notepad". With Windows 98 and earlier, Notepad had its own
internal font. With Windows XP, Notepad uses the installed fonts. You
are using Windows ME, which was between Windows 98 and Windows XP; I
don't know if Notepad Windows ME followed the Windows 98 design or the
Windows XP design.


>> After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your
>> Windows XP PC:
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by temporary folder, but I assume that
> doesn't mean to make a new folder on the desktop, correct?

You create a folder to hold the file. It can be anywhere you want it
(Desktop, C-drive, etc).

I avoided saying that the file should go directly on your Desktop
because, on Windows XP, the path to Desktop itself may vary according to
how you have configured your Windows accounts. My Desktop is at
<C:\Documents and Settings\User\Desktop>. Yours might be at
<C:\Documents and Settings\Searcher7\Desktop> or <C:\Documents and
Settings\Owner\Desktop>.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the
people who die of natural causes.

On Nov 26, 10:10 am, "David E. Ross" <nob....RemoveThis@nowhere.not> wrote:
> On 11/25/2007 10:06 PM,Searcher7wrote:> On Nov 25, 10:39 am, I previously wrote [in part]:
> >> There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed
> >> in Windows. Even if it's a printer font (downloaded to your printer),
> >> you cannot view a document using a font unless it's also installed in
> >> Windows. Since you do indeed see your document with the LinePrinter
> >> font, it must be installed in your WindowsMe.
>
> [snipped instructions for finding font files]
>
>
>
> > I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it
> > is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then
> > Font. It is one of the selections.
>
> > I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it
> > is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then
> > Font. It is one of the selections.
>
> Previously, you said "Wordpad", which uses the installed fonts. You now
> say "Notepad". With Windows 98 and earlier, Notepad had its own
> internal font. With Windows XP, Notepad uses the installed fonts. You
> are using Windows ME, which was between Windows 98 and Windows XP; I
> don't know if Notepad Windows ME followed the Windows 98 design or the
> Windows XP design.

I've been switching between PCs so much I'm confusing myself. I
reconnected everything to my WindowsME PC and realized that it is
"Microsoft Word 2000" that allows the LinePrinter font.(But still
cannot find that file in the font folder.

It was difficult enough copying the page from online to my WindowsMe
computer. Notepad couldn't hold the entire page and when I tried to
copy it to Word all I'd get were squiggly lines. So while creating
multiple Notepads so I could copy the page in sections something
happened.

One of the Notepads "converted" itself to what looked like a simple
version of Word and allowed me to fit *all* of the text I needed
copied.(The Icon however remained a Notepad icon).

> >> After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your
> >> Windows XP PC:
>
> > I'm not sure what you mean by temporary folder, but I assume that
> > doesn't mean to make a new folder on the desktop, correct?
>
> You create a folder to hold the file. It can be anywhere you want it
> (Desktop, C-drive, etc).
>
> I avoided saying that the file should go directly on your Desktop
> because, on Windows XP, the path to Desktop itself may vary according to
> how you have configured your Windows accounts. My Desktop is at
> <C:\Documents and Settings\User\Desktop>. Yours might be at
> <C:\Documents and Settings\Searcher7\Desktop> or <C:\Documents and
> Settings\Owner\Desktop>.

I got a total of 25 out of the 66 fonts from my WindowsME system. I
used floppy disks to get them to a folder on my Windows XP desktop. I
had to transfer to my 4G flash drive from there, and then it allow me
to copy to the Windows XP fonts folder.(I know, a long way to go).

But LinePrinter is still not there. I'm assuming that it was one of
the other 35 fonts I couldn't get from my Windows ME system.(I still
don't know the abbreviated name for "LinePrinter". the only phrase I
put in the search that brought back any hits is "LinePrinter* *".(And
that was hundreds of hits).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

A fairly straightforward solution is to copy the data into Word, format it as Courier New (or another mono-spaced font) at, say,
8pt, on a landscape page (eg A4, legal) with 5-6mm margins then print.

Cheers
--
macropod
[MVP - Microsoft Word]
-------------------------

"Searcher7" <Searcher7 RemoveThis @mail.con2.com> wrote in message news:d82a7e64-79fe-4f48-91c1-ea0c81889d11@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 25, 12:15 am, Character <C... RemoveThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
>> Searcher7wrote:
>> > On Nov 24, 9:14 pm, Character <C... RemoveThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
>>
>> >>Searcher7wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Nov 24, 7:58 pm, Character <C... RemoveThis @cters.old.style> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>Searcher7wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>I have a document that I need to print out.
>>
>> >>>>>Originally I thought I'd have to print out almost 200 pages, but then
>> >>>>>found while experimenting with all the available fonts in WordPad(on
>> >>>>>my old system which had WindowsMe) that the LinePrinter font lined up
>> >>>>>the text the way it was supposed to be(Unlike almost all the other
>> >>>>>fonts), and it also mae the text small enough to allow the document to
>> >>>>>be printed out in only 89 pages.
>>
>> >>>>>Unfortunately, my old system is too screwed up for my printer to work
>> >>>>>with it, so I had to connect a new(Windows XP) system to the internet.
>>
>> >>>>>The problem is that the WordPad documents on this new system do not
>> >>>>>have the same fonts as on my old system, and LinePrinter is no where
>> >>>>>to be found.
>>
>> >>>>>Can someone tell me how to correct this situation? Or recommend an
>> >>>>>even better font for my purposes if such a font exists?
>>
>> >>>>>Thanks a lot.
>>
>> >>>>>Darren Harris
>> >>>>>Staten Island, New York.
>>
>> >>>>Just copy the font from the system it's on to the one that doesn't
>> >>>>have it.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>> >>>I wich I knew how to do that. I had put "LinePrinter* *" in the search
>> >>>and came up with hundreds of hits. I have no idea exactly what I'm
>> >>>supposed to be looking for.
>>
>> >>>Thanks.
>>
>> >>>Darren Harris
>> >>>Staten Island, New York
>>
>> >>How about just using any mono-spaced font such as
>> >> Courier
>> >> Andale Mono
>> >> Consolas downloadable directly from Microsoft at
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/qxzuw
>>
>> >>and adjusting the character spacing and point size to fit. HP's
>> >>Lineprinter font is set for 16.66 characters per inch and an 8.5 point
>> >>size (I'm not sure what the line-to-line spacing is supposed to be)
>>
>> >>WordPad may not be up to the task - WordPerfect or MSWord or just
>> >>about anything else will allow you make the character spacing adjustments.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >>- Show quoted text -
>>
>> > The reason I want LinePrinter is because it allowed the smallest text
>> > of all the fonts available on my old WindowsMe system.
>>
>> That font was probably installed with an hp printer driver. You should
>> be able to find it in C:\windows\fonts (the FILE name will not be
>> "line printer", but that's where it will be.
>
> After several hours(more) on this the only option was to copy most of
> the 60 files I got with that search. It wasn't easy since the floppy
> drive barely works and many of the files are larger than a floppy
> disk's capacity.
>
>> > Another issue is that on my XP system I cannot determine how many
>> > pages a document is in WordPad *before* I print it out. When I open
>> > the document the little notations show which page I'm looking at do
>> > not pop up when using the vertical slider. So that is another problem
>> > I have to solve.
>>
>> Yes, it's clumsy. What you can do is select file/print preview;
>> and then hold the pagedown key while it rapidly goes through all the
>> pages. It will stop at the last page, and the page number is shown
>> down in the lower left corner. You can then either close the preview
>> window (with the "close" button) or decide to print.
>
> There is no slider, so I had to use the page next. The total number
> was 106 pages(using Lucida Console at 8 pt. type). I have to learn how
> to manipulate the margins,but I think they are at default, which is
> what I'd want anyway.
>
>> To try different fonts and font sizes, click on the text, press Ctrl-A
>> to select ALL, then change your font/size selection. You can leave it
>> selected when you go to Print Preview to see the results.
>
> I just Select all, then click "Format", then "Font", then I select the
> Font and click "OK".
>
> Anyway, since I was unablbe to upload the FOnts to my Verizon e-mail
> for some reason, I copied as many Font files from my old system as I
> could to floppy disks. But I have no idea which one is LinePrinter(if
> I got it copied).
>
> I can't copy from the floppy disks to the Font folder on my new
> system, or even from a folder I created on my desktop. I couldn't even
> get most of the fonts from the floppy disks to my desktop folder. And
> for those that made it I had to copy one at a time.
>
> The goal of printing out this document started two months ago.(See
> "Help: Two Sided Printing" in "comp.periphs.printers"). And after
> getting a maintenance kit which included more ram for my HP LaserJet
> 2100TN and putting together a whole new PC system(which was hell in
> and of itself) I am no closer to getting it done despite help from the
> following groups:
>
> "Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font"
> "microsoft.public.word.printingfonts"
>
> "Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font" "comp.fonts"
>
> "LaserJet 2100TN: Drivers and Fonts" "comp.periphs.printers"
>
> I had promised to copy and send this document out to someone who is
> um...socially restricted at the moment. So it looks like I wasted
> another weekend, and I'll have no choice but to pay to have this @#$%!
> document printed out at a store that does that, because all the
> hardware and software I have has been useless to me.
>
> Thanks to everyone for trying.
>
> Darren Harris
> Statebn Island, New York.

On Nov 27, 2:10 am, "David E. Ross" <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.not> wrote:
> Previously, you said "Wordpad", which uses the installed fonts. You now
> say "Notepad". With Windows 98 and earlier, Notepad had its own
> internal font. With Windows XP, Notepad uses the installed fonts.

That's not true. Notepad (in Win98) has a default font, a monospaced
screen font whose name escapes me, but you can choose any other system
font, Truetype or otherwise. I used Win98 up to a year ago, so I am
sure of this. I think it may have printed using Courier if you used a
screen font.

In any case, there is no unique"Lineprinter" font. In the Olden Days,
printers had two fonts, a monospaced standard-width one (80
characters to a line) and a narrow (132 chars per line). The latter is
probably what the OP wants. There are many Truetype emulations of
these, locations to find them have been mentioned in other posts.