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Gary

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Since: Jul 23, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:56 am
Post subject: Formatting cross-references Add to elertz
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>formatting>longdocs (more info?)

Hi.

I'm creating a long user guide in Word 2007. I'd like to insert
cross-references that automatically format to look like hyperlinks (blue and
underlined) so that end-users know they can click on the link. I tried
inserting Hyperlinks (which are already formatted that way), but they don't
update like normal fields (pressing F9). If there is a way to automatically
update Hyperlinks, let me know and I'd be happy to use those instead.

I created a character style for cross-references so that I can format them
manually (for some reason the Hyperlink character format didn't work on
cross-references so I created a new character format called cross-reference,
which worked just fine). But I'd much rather have cross-references format
automatically.

Here's an example: After you enter the widget into the doodad, make sure you
complete all doodad fields; see Completing all doodad fields. [Without
formatting, no one will know they can click on "Completing all doodad
fields."]

FYI. When you convert the Word doc to PDF, the cross-reference links are
clickable (as expected) but they're still not formatted to look like a
hyperlink (unless I manually format them in Word first).

Thanks!
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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Since: Sep 26, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:05 am
Post subject: Re: Formatting cross-references Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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By design, hyperlinked TOCs and cross-references, although they display the
Hyperlink style, somehow suppress it. I don't know any way around this
except by applying a different character style as you're doing. Moreover, I
believe they shed the style whenever the link is updated.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Gary" <gjperch.RemoveThis@idcomm.com> wrote in message
news:uoD4nvM7IHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi.
>
> I'm creating a long user guide in Word 2007. I'd like to insert
> cross-references that automatically format to look like hyperlinks (blue
> and underlined) so that end-users know they can click on the link. I tried
> inserting Hyperlinks (which are already formatted that way), but they
> don't update like normal fields (pressing F9). If there is a way to
> automatically update Hyperlinks, let me know and I'd be happy to use those
> instead.
>
> I created a character style for cross-references so that I can format them
> manually (for some reason the Hyperlink character format didn't work on
> cross-references so I created a new character format called
> cross-reference, which worked just fine). But I'd much rather have
> cross-references format automatically.
>
> Here's an example: After you enter the widget into the doodad, make sure
> you complete all doodad fields; see Completing all doodad fields. [Without
> formatting, no one will know they can click on "Completing all doodad
> fields."]
>
> FYI. When you convert the Word doc to PDF, the cross-reference links are
> clickable (as expected) but they're still not formatted to look like a
> hyperlink (unless I manually format them in Word first).
>
> Thanks!
>
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Gary

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:05 am
Post subject: Re: Formatting cross-references Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for the reply. I was afraid of that.

Thankfully, you can set the REF field to preserve its format when you update
so (so far) the format has "stuck" after updating (F9).

The other annoying thing is that if the cross-reference is the entire
paragraph (such as when I'm mapping a chapter and have all of the Heading 1
titles in a bullet list) if I apply the character format to just the text
(and don't include the paragraph mark) it still formats the paragraph and my
bullets turn blue. So I have to add a dummy character at the end of each
bullet item, format the cross-reference text, and then delete the dummy
character.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:09 am
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You can remove the formatting from just the paragraph mark, but I find
Word's "helpful" behavior in this case very annoying. No matter how
carefully you select everything *but* the paragraph mark, and regardless of
your Tools | Options | Edit settings wrt selection, Word still includes the
paragraph mark if you select text at the end of a paragraph.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Gary" <gjperch RemoveThis @idcomm.com> wrote in message
news:%23MwYeAN7IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply. I was afraid of that.
>
> Thankfully, you can set the REF field to preserve its format when you
> update so (so far) the format has "stuck" after updating (F9).
>
> The other annoying thing is that if the cross-reference is the entire
> paragraph (such as when I'm mapping a chapter and have all of the Heading
> 1 titles in a bullet list) if I apply the character format to just the
> text (and don't include the paragraph mark) it still formats the paragraph
> and my bullets turn blue. So I have to add a dummy character at the end of
> each bullet item, format the cross-reference text, and then delete the
> dummy character.
>
>
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Gary

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:55 am
Post subject: Re: Formatting cross-references Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thans for your help, Suzanne.

I -think- I've decided to live with blue bullets to save time as every
section and sub-section will be mapped with cross-references. So I now have
a paragraph style for the bullet list and a character style for inside other
paragraphs. I'm sure tomorrow I'll change my mind ... again.

I'll be curious to see if anyone even notices that the bullets are blue (or
thinks it odd that they're blue).

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill.DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23duQ2cN7IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You can remove the formatting from just the paragraph mark, but I find
> Word's "helpful" behavior in this case very annoying. No matter how
> carefully you select everything *but* the paragraph mark, and regardless
> of your Tools | Options | Edit settings wrt selection, Word still includes
> the paragraph mark if you select text at the end of a paragraph.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Gary" <gjperch.DeleteThis@idcomm.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MwYeAN7IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the reply. I was afraid of that.
>>
>> Thankfully, you can set the REF field to preserve its format when you
>> update so (so far) the format has "stuck" after updating (F9).
>>
>> The other annoying thing is that if the cross-reference is the entire
>> paragraph (such as when I'm mapping a chapter and have all of the Heading
>> 1 titles in a bullet list) if I apply the character format to just the
>> text (and don't include the paragraph mark) it still formats the
>> paragraph and my bullets turn blue. So I have to add a dummy character at
>> the end of each bullet item, format the cross-reference text, and then
>> delete the dummy character.
>>
>>
>
>
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Henk57

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Since: Jul 27, 2008
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Formatting cross-references Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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'Gary[_13_ Wrote:
> ;2879018']Thans for your help, Suzanne.
>
> I -think- I've decided to live with blue bullets to save time as every
>
> section and sub-section will be mapped with cross-references. So I now
> have
> a paragraph style for the bullet list and a character style for inside
> other
> paragraphs. I'm sure tomorrow I'll change my mind ... again.
>
> I'll be curious to see if anyone even notices that the bullets are blue
> (or
> thinks it odd that they're blue).
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" sbarnhill RemoveThis @mvps.org wrote in message
> news:%23duQ2cN7IHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...-
> You can remove the formatting from just the paragraph mark, but I find
>
> Word's "helpful" behavior in this case very annoying. No matter how
> carefully you select everything *but* the paragraph mark, and
> regardless
> of your Tools | Options | Edit settings wrt selection, Word still
> includes
> the paragraph mark if you select text at the end of a paragraph.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> "Gary" gjperch RemoveThis @idcomm.com wrote in message
> news:%23MwYeAN7IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...-
> Thanks for the reply. I was afraid of that.
>
> Thankfully, you can set the REF field to preserve its format when you
>
> update so (so far) the format has "stuck" after updating (F9).
>
> The other annoying thing is that if the cross-reference is the entire
>
> paragraph (such as when I'm mapping a chapter and have all of the
> Heading
> 1 titles in a bullet list) if I apply the character format to just the
>
> text (and don't include the paragraph mark) it still formats the
> paragraph and my bullets turn blue. So I have to add a dummy character
> at
> the end of each bullet item, format the cross-reference text, and then
>
> delete the dummy character.
>
> -
>
> -

Gary, the bullet formatting is linked to the formatting of the pilcrow
(the paragraph marker) as you know. Word indeed is annoyingly "clever"
here. A quicker way than adding/deleting dummy characters (I think), is
using Ctrl-H (Find/Replace) to change all pilcrows back to black (Find:
^p, Replace by ^p (formatted as black)).




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