(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:31 am
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>word>newusers (more info?)
The Protect Document command shouldn't cause what you are describing. If you
use the Read Only option it doesn't force a Save As. Instead, it locks the
document and you're unable to make modifications except for those areas that
have been marked as exceptions.
If you are saving documents to your local drive and not a network or
external drive then that indicates a third-party conflict. The most common
cause of what you describe is antivirus software. I'm not familiar with
Norton 360 but even though you may have not made any changes Symantec does
push updates to Norton. What would really help with this would be to have
the exact message you have encountered. For example does it just tell you
it's read only or are you encountering a message that says something about a
temp file?
Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.
"Lenny" <Lenny RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:114E9977-D70F-48AF-9B33-900695B79DBE@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Norton 360 but this just happened recently like about 2 weeks
> ago
> and I haven't changed the settings of the antivirus program. When I press
> Ctrl+S it will pop up the Save As window. That's when I see the original
> document title say: Title (Read-Only)
>
> Actually I remember that I wanted to understand what the Protect Document
> button was all about. I clicked on it during one of my classes and then
> that's when this whole Read-Only issue occurred. I've tried unsuccessfully
> by
> clicking it to Track Changes, and then unchecking the box, but then it's
> still the same with all the other documents. And also, there is no
> password
> set up for that option either.
>
> Is it not possible for Microsoft Word to have an option where they reset
> or
> make the Protect Document button default to it's original setup again? Or
> is
> there a way to undo whatever I might have caused by a simple click of an
> icon
> or option? Otherwise, I'm kind of at a loss right now. It's not a big
> deal,
> but it is when an error message pops up in a few cases when I periodically
> save my document during class sessions and then what would have been a
> Save
> As document would try to recover itself from this Read-Only error (sorry I
> don't have the exact wording for this error message)
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:14 am
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
This same thing as below is happening to some of our users here. We
use Symantic Antivirus Corporate Edition version 10.1.5. Can't really
pinpoint a date when this started happening. We use Word 2003.
>When I press
>Ctrl+S it will pop up the Save As window. That's when I see the original
>document title say: Title (Read-Only)
(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:06 am
Post subject: RE: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment.
When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times
(sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled
for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful!
Please fix it.
Zhao
"Lenny" wrote:
> I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus
> making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the original
> document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an
> inconvenience.
>
> Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save
> normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain.
>
> Please Help Me!
> Thanks
>
>
(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:33 am
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro enviroment.
When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times
(sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be sovled
for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very painful!
Please fix it.
more info: I have norton internet security 2007 installed in my pc. the
problem happened when i open old documents created in word 2003 and modify
them in word 2007 environment (Compatibilty Mode) (i am not sure it happens
or not if a doc is created originally in word 2007). ... and i save them in
local hard drive, and the file/document is not password protected.
Zhao
"Beth Melton" wrote:
> The Protect Document command shouldn't cause what you are describing. If you
> use the Read Only option it doesn't force a Save As. Instead, it locks the
> document and you're unable to make modifications except for those areas that
> have been marked as exceptions.
>
> If you are saving documents to your local drive and not a network or
> external drive then that indicates a third-party conflict. The most common
> cause of what you describe is antivirus software. I'm not familiar with
> Norton 360 but even though you may have not made any changes Symantec does
> push updates to Norton. What would really help with this would be to have
> the exact message you have encountered. For example does it just tell you
> it's read only or are you encountering a message that says something about a
> temp file?
>
> Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
> assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Beth Melton
> Microsoft Office MVP
>
> Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
> http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/9801.aspx#AboutTheBook >
> Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word > TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/ > MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/ >
> "Lenny" <Lenny.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:114E9977-D70F-48AF-9B33-900695B79DBE@microsoft.com...
> > I'm using Norton 360 but this just happened recently like about 2 weeks
> > ago
> > and I haven't changed the settings of the antivirus program. When I press
> > Ctrl+S it will pop up the Save As window. That's when I see the original
> > document title say: Title (Read-Only)
> >
> > Actually I remember that I wanted to understand what the Protect Document
> > button was all about. I clicked on it during one of my classes and then
> > that's when this whole Read-Only issue occurred. I've tried unsuccessfully
> > by
> > clicking it to Track Changes, and then unchecking the box, but then it's
> > still the same with all the other documents. And also, there is no
> > password
> > set up for that option either.
> >
> > Is it not possible for Microsoft Word to have an option where they reset
> > or
> > make the Protect Document button default to it's original setup again? Or
> > is
> > there a way to undo whatever I might have caused by a simple click of an
> > icon
> > or option? Otherwise, I'm kind of at a loss right now. It's not a big
> > deal,
> > but it is when an error message pops up in a few cases when I periodically
> > save my document during class sessions and then what would have been a
> > Save
> > As document would try to recover itself from this Read-Only error (sorry I
> > don't have the exact wording for this error message)
> >
>
>
>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are
these...
If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was
adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing
session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should
remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document.
Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read
Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to
continue editing and saving.
My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that
is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only
adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open
document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it
must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can
see in Word.
So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have.
Terry
"Zhao" <Zhao.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6A9D37DF-0249-4D24-B1D4-0B5CE46FD3B5@microsoft.com...
>I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro
>enviroment.
> When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times
> (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be
> sovled
> for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very
> painful!
> Please fix it.
>
> Zhao
>
>
>
> "Lenny" wrote:
>
>> I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus
>> making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the
>> original
>> document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an
>> inconvenience.
>>
>> Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save
>> normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain.
>>
>> Please Help Me!
>> Thanks
>>
>>
(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:17 am
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins
(winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the problem
is still there sometimes.
by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure
networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft.
Zhao
"Terry Farrell" wrote:
> I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are
> these...
>
> If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was
> adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing
> session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It should
> remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the document.
>
> Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the Read
> Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able to
> continue editing and saving.
>
> My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in that
> is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only
> adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open
> document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it
> must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can
> see in Word.
>
> So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have.
>
> Terry
>
>
> "Zhao" <Zhao RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6A9D37DF-0249-4D24-B1D4-0B5CE46FD3B5@microsoft.com...
> >I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro
> >enviroment.
> > When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second times
> > (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be
> > sovled
> > for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very
> > painful!
> > Please fix it.
> >
> > Zhao
> >
> >
> >
> > "Lenny" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only thus
> >> making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the
> >> original
> >> document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an
> >> inconvenience.
> >>
> >> Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save
> >> normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain.
> >>
> >> Please Help Me!
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
>
(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:41 am
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them,
you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has
nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine
macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible
with the applications.
In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing
the problem you are experiencing.
Terry
"Zhao" <Zhao.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7C595643-BB0F-48FA-B374-D935DAEC756B@microsoft.com...
>I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins
> (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the
> problem
> is still there sometimes.
>
> by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure
> networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft.
>
> Zhao
>
>
> "Terry Farrell" wrote:
>
>> I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are
>> these...
>>
>> If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was
>> adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing
>> session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It
>> should
>> remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the
>> document.
>>
>> Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the
>> Read
>> Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able
>> to
>> continue editing and saving.
>>
>> My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in
>> that
>> is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only
>> adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open
>> document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it
>> must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can
>> see in Word.
>>
>> So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>> "Zhao" <Zhao.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A9D37DF-0249-4D24-B1D4-0B5CE46FD3B5@microsoft.com...
>> >I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro
>> >enviroment.
>> > When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second
>> > times
>> > (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be
>> > sovled
>> > for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very
>> > painful!
>> > Please fix it.
>> >
>> > Zhao
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Lenny" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only
>> >> thus
>> >> making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the
>> >> original
>> >> document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an
>> >> inconvenience.
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save
>> >> normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain.
>> >>
>> >> Please Help Me!
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Document switch to become Read-Only when it's not suppose to [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I'm having the same problem, although it occurs infrequently. Most of my
documents are running in Word 1997-2003 compatibility mode in Word 2007 on
Vista Business with McAfee Security Center. I click on a doc and open it,
edit it, then somewhere while I'm editing, it changes to Read Only so that
when I go to save it, it says my editing can't be saved, so I have to alter
the name of the doc to save it with my editing. I don't know why some docs
will do this only infrequently, but it is annoying. I have never invoked
document protection or passwords and the only add-on is the MS "Save docs as
PDF" which has not been a problem for over a year.
"Terry Farrell" wrote:
> Uninstall all third party add-ins and macros. Until you have removed them,
> you won't know if they are the cause of the problem. Digital signing has
> nothing to do with this: it just means they are certified as being genuine
> macros from Adobe and Pure Networks but it doesn't mean they are compatible
> with the applications.
>
> In fact, knowing what Pure Networks can do, it could certainly be causing
> the problem you are experiencing.
>
> Terry
>
> "Zhao" <Zhao.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7C595643-BB0F-48FA-B374-D935DAEC756B@microsoft.com...
> >I checked the add-ins in the word program, and I disabled the two add-ins
> > (winfax and bluetooth, only these two) in my office program, but the
> > problem
> > is still there sometimes.
> >
> > by the way, i also found two macros in my word program (adobe and pure
> > networks) but these two macros are digitally signed by microsoft.
> >
> > Zhao
> >
> >
> > "Terry Farrell" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having a similar thread on another Word NG. My current thoughts are
> >> these...
> >>
> >> If the document is opened and saved (but NOT closed), even IF Word was
> >> adding the Read Only attribute, it should not affect the current editing
> >> session because the user has not closed and reopened the document. It
> >> should
> >> remain editable and save should work until the user has closed the
> >> document.
> >>
> >> Once the document is closed and reopened, it will be Read Only and the
> >> Read
> >> Only password prompt will pop up on opening. Then the user will be able
> >> to
> >> continue editing and saving.
> >>
> >> My conclusion is that there MUST be an incompatible third party add-in
> >> that
> >> is substituting Word's SaveAs macro with a custom macro that is not only
> >> adding a Read Only attribute to the document, but is making the open
> >> document Read Only immediately. I don't know how that can be done, but it
> >> must be through VBA coding as it isn't possible with the tools that I can
> >> see in Word.
> >>
> >> So I suggest that you look at third party add-ins that you have.
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >>
> >> "Zhao" <Zhao.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6A9D37DF-0249-4D24-B1D4-0B5CE46FD3B5@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have the same problem too. i am using office 2007 in Win XP Pro
> >> >enviroment.
> >> > When i first click "save" it is ok, but when i click "save" second
> >> > times
> >> > (sometimes third times or so), it becomes "Read Only" mode. It can be
> >> > sovled
> >> > for a while after the word program is closed, and then repeat. very
> >> > painful!
> >> > Please fix it.
> >> >
> >> > Zhao
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Lenny" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm having problems with all of my documents switching to Read-Only
> >> >> thus
> >> >> making it impossible to Save. I have to Save As and then delete the
> >> >> original
> >> >> document and rename the new document to its previous name making it an
> >> >> inconvenience.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sometimes, in the beginning when I open the document I'm able to save
> >> >> normally, then it switches to Read-Only which is a pain.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please Help Me!
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
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