Configuring folder redirection for Outlook 2007 for mandat..

Personalization can work with mandatory profiles. With a clever enough
combination of logon scripts, GPOs, and folder redirection, this is
definitely possible (as we've found with other Office apps like Word, i.e.
copying QAT files to the users application data share). We want to set up
mandatory profiles because roaming profiles do not always clean off the
client machine when the user logs off. So we wind up with loads of "orphaned"
profiles on all of our client PCs. Not to mention how big roaming profiles
can become over a short period of time.

"Roady [MVP]" wrote:

> Personalization and Mandatory profiles don't mix. If you want to allow
> personalization why are you setting up mandatory profiles in the first
> place?
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
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>
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>
> -----
>
> "Adam" <Adam.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3D2532B5-09C6-43F6-B12A-CCF6315F6742@microsoft.com...
> > Hello All,
> > Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
> > We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder redirection
> > via
> > Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable problems
> > getting
> > it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The biggest
> > problem
> > we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files for
> > Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings for
> > users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when using
> > mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize Outlook,
> > those
> > customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone tell me
> > how
> > and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best re-direct
> > those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction with
> > mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many thanks,
> > Adam
>
>

Settings for Outlook are stored in a combination of files, registry and in
the mailbox itself. Which setting are you after?

--
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Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
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http://www.msoutlook.info/
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"Adam" <Adam DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CCD70143-36BE-4E0F-BA07-CC6D474CC549@microsoft.com...
> Personalization can work with mandatory profiles. With a clever enough
> combination of logon scripts, GPOs, and folder redirection, this is
> definitely possible (as we've found with other Office apps like Word, i.e.
> copying QAT files to the users application data share). We want to set up
> mandatory profiles because roaming profiles do not always clean off the
> client machine when the user logs off. So we wind up with loads of
> "orphaned"
> profiles on all of our client PCs. Not to mention how big roaming profiles
> can become over a short period of time.
>
> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Personalization and Mandatory profiles don't mix. If you want to allow
>> personalization why are you setting up mandatory profiles in the first
>> place?
>>
>> --
>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>
>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>
>> -----
>>
>> "Adam" <Adam DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3D2532B5-09C6-43F6-B12A-CCF6315F6742@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello All,
>> > Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
>> > We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder redirection
>> > via
>> > Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable problems
>> > getting
>> > it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The biggest
>> > problem
>> > we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files for
>> > Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings
>> > for
>> > users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when using
>> > mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize Outlook,
>> > those
>> > customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone tell
>> > me
>> > how
>> > and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best
>> > re-direct
>> > those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction with
>> > mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many thanks,
>> > Adam
>>
>>

Thanks Roady,
The major complaints we've had from users who've been put on mandatory
profile are that their signature files, the reading pane preferences, and
customized settings to the folder list view (buttons added/removed) all
disappear after logoff/logon. If we could find these settings, we could add a
line to the logon VB script to copy them to the application data share. It
may or may not work, but we'd certainly like to give it a shot if it will get
us away from roaming profile hell! Regards,
Adam

"Roady [MVP]" wrote:

> Settings for Outlook are stored in a combination of files, registry and in
> the mailbox itself. Which setting are you after?
>
> --
> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>
> http://www.msoutlook.info/
> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>
> -----
>
> "Adam" <Adam.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CCD70143-36BE-4E0F-BA07-CC6D474CC549@microsoft.com...
> > Personalization can work with mandatory profiles. With a clever enough
> > combination of logon scripts, GPOs, and folder redirection, this is
> > definitely possible (as we've found with other Office apps like Word, i.e.
> > copying QAT files to the users application data share). We want to set up
> > mandatory profiles because roaming profiles do not always clean off the
> > client machine when the user logs off. So we wind up with loads of
> > "orphaned"
> > profiles on all of our client PCs. Not to mention how big roaming profiles
> > can become over a short period of time.
> >
> > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Personalization and Mandatory profiles don't mix. If you want to allow
> >> personalization why are you setting up mandatory profiles in the first
> >> place?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
> >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
> >> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
> >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
> >>
> >> http://www.msoutlook.info/
> >> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
> >>
> >> -----
> >>
> >> "Adam" <Adam.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3D2532B5-09C6-43F6-B12A-CCF6315F6742@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello All,
> >> > Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
> >> > We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder redirection
> >> > via
> >> > Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable problems
> >> > getting
> >> > it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The biggest
> >> > problem
> >> > we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files for
> >> > Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings
> >> > for
> >> > users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when using
> >> > mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize Outlook,
> >> > those
> >> > customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone tell
> >> > me
> >> > how
> >> > and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best
> >> > re-direct
> >> > those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction with
> >> > mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many thanks,
> >> > Adam
> >>
> >>

Instead of going this way I would still recommend to use roaming profiles.
With all the GPOs, scripts, redirections and other customized things you are
creating an (in my view) unmanageable situation which will be difficult to
maintain and troubleshoot. Even when you solve this you are bound to break
something else or find something else that is missing.

Why not create a simple startup script that checks how many roaming profiles
are stored on the machine and when they've been used last. Then set a
condition for it to delete some when there are for instance more than 10
roaming profiles on it, the profiles hasn't been used for over a month or
when the combined total of folders are larger than 10GB.

This way you wouldn't bug your users, you'd still have a clean PC and a very
easy to manage script and environment.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

http://www.msoutlook.info/
Real World Questions, Real World Answers

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"Adam" <Adam.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B165496-5CE1-4A7F-8BED-AD0AB9A9F145@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Roady,
> The major complaints we've had from users who've been put on mandatory
> profile are that their signature files, the reading pane preferences, and
> customized settings to the folder list view (buttons added/removed) all
> disappear after logoff/logon. If we could find these settings, we could
> add a
> line to the logon VB script to copy them to the application data share. It
> may or may not work, but we'd certainly like to give it a shot if it will
> get
> us away from roaming profile hell! Regards,
> Adam
>
> "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Settings for Outlook are stored in a combination of files, registry and
>> in
>> the mailbox itself. Which setting are you after?
>>
>> --
>> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>>
>> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>>
>> -----
>>
>> "Adam" <Adam.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CCD70143-36BE-4E0F-BA07-CC6D474CC549@microsoft.com...
>> > Personalization can work with mandatory profiles. With a clever enough
>> > combination of logon scripts, GPOs, and folder redirection, this is
>> > definitely possible (as we've found with other Office apps like Word,
>> > i.e.
>> > copying QAT files to the users application data share). We want to set
>> > up
>> > mandatory profiles because roaming profiles do not always clean off the
>> > client machine when the user logs off. So we wind up with loads of
>> > "orphaned"
>> > profiles on all of our client PCs. Not to mention how big roaming
>> > profiles
>> > can become over a short period of time.
>> >
>> > "Roady [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Personalization and Mandatory profiles don't mix. If you want to allow
>> >> personalization why are you setting up mandatory profiles in the first
>> >> place?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
>> >> Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
>> >> http://www.howto-outlook.com/
>> >> Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more
>> >>
>> >> http://www.msoutlook.info/
>> >> Real World Questions, Real World Answers
>> >>
>> >> -----
>> >>
>> >> "Adam" <Adam.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3D2532B5-09C6-43F6-B12A-CCF6315F6742@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hello All,
>> >> > Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
>> >> > We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder
>> >> > redirection
>> >> > via
>> >> > Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable
>> >> > problems
>> >> > getting
>> >> > it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The
>> >> > biggest
>> >> > problem
>> >> > we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files
>> >> > for
>> >> > Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings
>> >> > for
>> >> > users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when
>> >> > using
>> >> > mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize
>> >> > Outlook,
>> >> > those
>> >> > customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone
>> >> > tell
>> >> > me
>> >> > how
>> >> > and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best
>> >> > re-direct
>> >> > those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction
>> >> > with
>> >> > mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many
>> >> > thanks,
>> >> > Adam
>> >>
>> >>

As for signitures, you should set up Application data redirection on the user GPO. Also check if this works correctly, and the signature should be saved in %APPDATA%\Microsoft\signatures\ (variable for: \\server\share\%username%\Application Data\Microsoft).

Note: For layout options you could use something like the "Profile Custumization Wizard" in Office Resource Kit.

Note: Some view settings are stored on the exchange server.



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Configuring folder redirection for Outlook 2007 for mandatory prof
04-Dec-07

Hello All,
Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder redirection via
Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable problems getting
it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The biggest problem
we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files for
Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings for
users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when using
mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize Outlook, those
customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone tell me how
and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best re-direct
those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction with
mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many thanks,
Adam

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Also note that this type of redirection is not recommended in any way. Using
Roaming User profiles are a better way to go if you want to have the
Application Data located on a server. This also works with mandatory
profiles.

The issue of the OP is not specific to Outlook but simply the way how
mandatory profiles work; all customizations are lost after a session. The
proper solution would be to configure the user account before turning the
user profile into a mandatory profile.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.howto-outlook.com/
Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more

http://www.msoutlook.info/
Real World Questions, Real World Answers

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"Dino Heerenveen" wrote in message
news:20099222510dinoheerenveen@gmail.com...
> As for signitures, you should set up Application data redirection on the
> user GPO. Also check if this works correctly, and the signature should be
> saved in %APPDATA%\Microsoft\signatures\ (variable for:
> \\server\share\%username%\Application Data\Microsoft).
>
> Note: For layout options you could use something like the "Profile
> Custumization Wizard" in Office Resource Kit.
>
> Note: Some view settings are stored on the exchange server.
>
>
>
> Posted as a reply to:
>
> Configuring folder redirection for Outlook 2007 for mandatory prof
> 04-Dec-07
>
> Hello All,
> Hope I'm posting this in the right group.
> We have been trying to set up mandatory profiles and folder redirection
> via
> Group Policy for all of our users, but have had considerable problems
> getting
> it to work with the latest version of Office and Outlook. The biggest
> problem
> we are having is in redirecting the appropriate customization files for
> Outlook. Basically, we've attempted to re-direct all office settings for
> users to an Applicaton Data share on the network. However, when using
> mandatory profiles, users are finding that if they customize Outlook,
> those
> customizations are lost once they log off and back on. Can anyone tell me
> how
> and where Outlook stores user customization and how we can best re-direct
> those settings using Group Policy folder redirection in conjuction with
> mandatory profiles? Hope I've provided enough information. Many thanks,
> Adam