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Paul Furman

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:18 pm
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Paul Furman wrote:
> I've been going through doing some search engine friendliness updates
> with rewrite rules and would like to clean up some php query strings
> like ?PG=2&PIC=5

OK folks, it's a done deal, I got all his rewrite stuff working (with
help from a consultan via instant messanging):

Major update to the web site, this time the addresses have become much
shorter & simpler, instead of
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=0_gallery/0-Photo-Update/2007...-19?PG=
the new links look like
http://edgehill.net/gallery/photo-update/07-19-07/pg1pc2
(the old links still work too)

(let me know if you get errors, this has been a big project to re-code)

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Toby A Inkster

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:49 pm
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Neredbojias wrote:

> It stands for "Wicked Witch of the West"...

ROFL. Well, not R, but OFL anyway.

For other reasons: http://no-www.org

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Neredbojias

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:20 am
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Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:49:48 GMT
Toby A Inkster scribed:

> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> It stands for "Wicked Witch of the West"...
>
> ROFL. Well, not R, but OFL anyway.
>
> For other reasons: http://no-www.org

Well, okay. I don't think it's a biggy, but... The few servers I've
actually tried seem to take the www-less version of the domain equally a
well as the original. It is true that it _shouldn't_ be necessary - for
convenience, if nothing else.

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rf

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:31 am
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"Toby A Inkster" <usenet200707 RemoveThis @tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Furman wrote:

> Don't do that. YMD is good: it's unambiguous. MDY is a weird-ass,
> ambiguous
> date format, used by a tiny proportion of the world's population.

I once did the demographics on this, starting with the Windows region
settings through to some site that lists the population of each country.

The biggest of course is the U S of A with ~4.5% of the planets population.

The other 10 or so countries that use MDY add up to a further 1% or so.

So, the tiny proportion is around 5.5%. And they think they own the internet
Smile

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Ed Mullen

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:23 am
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rf wrote:
> "Toby A Inkster" <usenet200707.TakeThisOut@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4k2pn4-nvu.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk...
>> Paul Furman wrote:
>
>> Don't do that. YMD is good: it's unambiguous. MDY is a weird-ass,
>> ambiguous
>> date format, used by a tiny proportion of the world's population.
>
> I once did the demographics on this, starting with the Windows region
> settings through to some site that lists the population of each country.
>
> The biggest of course is the U S of A with ~4.5% of the planets population.
>
> The other 10 or so countries that use MDY add up to a further 1% or so.
>
> So, the tiny proportion is around 5.5%. And they think they own the internet
> Smile
>

Hey! Al Gore /invented/ the Internet!!!

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dorayme

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:00 am
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In article <ss5qn4-nvu.ln1.DeleteThis@ophelia.g5n.co.uk>,
Toby A Inkster <usenet200707.DeleteThis@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:

> Neredbojias wrote:
>
> > It stands for "Wicked Witch of the West"...
>
> ROFL. Well, not R, but OFL anyway.
>
> For other reasons: http://no-www.org

In that, it it suggested to put in some text in a .htaccess to
make it happen without www. Presumably where it does happen
naturally, there is a server configuration inaccessible to users.
For example, quite a few websites that I have access to the
server files (up to a point) do not need www but there is nothing
to suggest anything about it in the .htaccess that is accessible
to me (if indeed, there is even such a file).

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Paul Furman

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:00 am
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dorayme wrote:
> Toby A Inkster wrote:
>>Neredbojias wrote:
>>
>>>It stands for "Wicked Witch of the West"...
>>
>>ROFL. Well, not R, but OFL anyway.
>>
>>For other reasons: http://no-www.org
>
> In that, it it suggested to put in some text in a .htaccess to
> make it happen without www. Presumably where it does happen
> naturally, there is a server configuration inaccessible to users.
> For example, quite a few websites that I have access to the
> server files (up to a point) do not need www but there is nothing
> to suggest anything about it in the .htaccess that is accessible
> to me (if indeed, there is even such a file).

All kinds of weird solutions for this.
Here's what I ended up with:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.edgehill\.net$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://edgehill.net/$1 [NC,R=301,L]


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Toby A Inkster

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:24 am
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rf wrote:

> I once did the demographics on this, starting with the Windows region
> settings through to some site that lists the population of each country.

http://message-id.net/4b5k74-8fk.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk

strtotime_i18n function:
http://demiblog.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/demiblog/trunk/blog/include...18n.php

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:09 am
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"Toby A Inkster" <usenet200707.TakeThisOut@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
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> rf wrote:
>
>> I once did the demographics on this, starting with the Windows region
>> settings through to some site that lists the population of each country.
>
> http://message-id.net/4b5k74-8fk.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk

I missed a % somewhere. Working from memory, was a couple or three years ago
(and so predates your post and I am sure I posted it somewhere though I
can't find it Smile ). 6.5 does sound more likely now that I am prodded about
it. Forgot about those blokes next door to us, the Philippinos.

> strtotime_i18n function:
> http://demiblog.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/demiblog/trunk/blog/include...18n.php

Handy looking code, if I ever need to fiddle with dates.


In general I get mightily narked when that upstart country, the U S of A,
tries to lay down the law on how things should work for the 95.5% rest of
the world[1]. Sure they may have invented the internet but we the Aussies,
tiny as we are, have invented the odd thing or two, the rotary lawn mower,
the Hills clothes hoist, much more practical things than this fiddly
internet stuff. And those blighters can't even spell.

[1] <aside> Skiing in California: Had to fill in a survey before they would
give me a lift pass. The damn computer insisted that my "zip code" *must* be
5 numbers and simply would not believe that I lived in the state of NSW in
<shudder> another country. Demographics stuffed. They have no idea where
their clients really come from. Head in sand or in this case, snow. </aside>

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Neredbojias

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:26 pm
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Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:09:47
GMT rf scribed:

> In general I get mightily narked when that upstart country, the U S of
> A, tries to lay down the law on how things should work for the 95.5%
> rest of the world[1]. Sure they may have invented the internet but we
> the Aussies, tiny as we are, have invented the odd thing or two, the
> rotary lawn mower, the Hills clothes hoist, much more practical things
> than this fiddly internet stuff. And those blighters can't even spell.

Australians invented the rotary lawnmower? Well, that's probably because
they're always running around in circles. Of course it could be due to the
head spinning syndrome, but that's an ethereally circular argument.

> [1] <aside> Skiing in California: Had to fill in a survey before they
> would give me a lift pass. The damn computer insisted that my "zip
> code" *must* be 5 numbers and simply would not believe that I lived in
> the state of NSW in <shudder> another country. Demographics stuffed.
> They have no idea where their clients really come from. Head in sand
> or in this case, snow. </aside>

We only let California into the Union because we didn't want a flaky
foreign country bordering our soil.

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bizshop

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:58 am
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>>Oh, and I could change 2007-06-24 to 6-24-07

No need for the dashes - and 20070624.is ISO proper.

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Chris F.A. Johnson

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:59 am
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On 2007-09-17, bizshop wrote:
>>>Oh, and I could change 2007-06-24 to 6-24-07
>
> No need for the dashes - and 20070624.is ISO proper.

ISO requires the dashes, and it is 2007-06-24 not the nonsensical
6-24-07.

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Paul Furman

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:41 pm
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Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

> On 2007-09-17, bizshop wrote:
>
>>>>Oh, and I could change 2007-06-24 to 6-24-07
>>
>>No need for the dashes - and 20070624.is ISO proper.
>
> ISO requires the dashes, and it is 2007-06-24 not the nonsensical
> 6-24-07.

I've got both systems now. 6-24-07 is what I'm most comfortable with
(and most Americans), the dashes simply make it easier to read. That's
how it presents now. 2007-06-24 is the actual archive system which makes
things sort properly and is more bulletproof regarding misinterpretation.

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rf

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:51 am
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"Paul Furman" <paul-.RemoveThis@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
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> Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>
>> On 2007-09-17, bizshop wrote:
>>
>>>>>Oh, and I could change 2007-06-24 to 6-24-07
>>>
>>>No need for the dashes - and 20070624.is ISO proper.
>>
>> ISO requires the dashes, and it is 2007-06-24 not the nonsensical
>> 6-24-07.
>
> I've got both systems now. 6-24-07 is what I'm most comfortable with

You might be but less that 5% of the planet uses that format. The other 95%
will wonder what the 24th month of the year is.

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:51 am
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rf wrote:
> "Paul Furman" <paul-.DeleteThis@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
> news:47%Hi.9082$z_5.811@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On 2007-09-17, bizshop wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and I could change 2007-06-24 to 6-24-07
>>>> No need for the dashes - and 20070624.is ISO proper.
>>> ISO requires the dashes, and it is 2007-06-24 not the nonsensical
>>> 6-24-07.
>> I've got both systems now. 6-24-07 is what I'm most comfortable with
>
> You might be but less that 5% of the planet uses that format. The other 95%
> will wonder what the 24th month of the year is.
>

So, 95% of the planet is too stupid to figure it out? That's a pretty
sad opinion of most of the world.

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