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Andy Dingley

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Entities in alt and title text
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:46:28 +0100, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet.TakeThisOut@bsb.me.uk>
wrote:

>> Linotype did (for a typeface where the glyphs were the same)
>
>Is there a typo here? You are saying that Linotype machines had
>separate "mats" for apostrophe and close quote?

Yes. I happened to notice this last time I looked at one and talked to
the operator.
(the now sadly closed Industrial Musem 8-( )

Their character set, and I believe even their peculiar keyboard layout,
was somewhat flexible according to the market they were publishing to.
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Ben Bacarisse

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:15 am
Post subject: Re: Entities in alt and title text
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Andy Dingley <dingbat.RemoveThis@codesmiths.com> writes:

> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:46:28 +0100, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet.RemoveThis@bsb.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>> Linotype did (for a typeface where the glyphs were the same)
>>
>>Is there a typo here? You are saying that Linotype machines had
>>separate "mats" for apostrophe and close quote?
>
> Yes. I happened to notice this last time I looked at one and talked to
> the operator.
> (the now sadly closed Industrial Musem 8-( )
>
> Their character set, and I believe even their peculiar keyboard layout,
> was somewhat flexible according to the market they were publishing
> to.

Yes, there were lots of variations. It seems like an odd waste of a
precious resource -- the keys and magazine slots are few on a linotype
machine -- hence my thought that you had meant to say "where the
glyphs were *not* the same".

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Ben.
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Andy Dingley

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:31 am
Post subject: Re: Entities in alt and title text
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:15:00 +0100, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet.TakeThisOut@bsb.me.uk>
wrote:

>Yes, there were lots of variations. It seems like an odd waste of a
>precious resource -- the keys and magazine slots are few on a linotype
>machine -- hence my thought that you had meant to say "where the
>glyphs were *not* the same".

You can change the matrix magazine relatively easily on a machine with
the same keyboard. I think some Linotypes even allowed this from the
keyboard, without the use of spanners (I don't know how the matrix
sorter worked afterwards, if you mixed fonts).
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Ben Bacarisse

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:45 am
Post subject: Re: Entities in alt and title text
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Andy Dingley <dingbat RemoveThis @codesmiths.com> writes:

> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:15:00 +0100, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet RemoveThis @bsb.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes, there were lots of variations. It seems like an odd waste of a
>>precious resource -- the keys and magazine slots are few on a linotype
>>machine -- hence my thought that you had meant to say "where the
>>glyphs were *not* the same".
>
> You can change the matrix magazine relatively easily on a machine with
> the same keyboard. I think some Linotypes even allowed this from the
> keyboard, without the use of spanners (I don't know how the matrix
> sorter worked afterwards, if you mixed fonts).

You can't mix fonts (by which I mean switch magazines) mid-line on a
linotype machine. When you switch, the mats have to run through the
whole cycle back to the magazine before you switch again. There is
only one sorting rail

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Ben.
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Ben Bacarisse

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:49 am
Post subject: Re: Entities in alt and title text
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet.TakeThisOut@bsb.me.uk> writes:

> Andy Dingley <dingbat.TakeThisOut@codesmiths.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:15:00 +0100, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet.TakeThisOut@bsb.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
<stuff>
>>
<more stuff>

Darn. I intended to kill not send that part message. I decided that
this was too far from the topic to make an sense posting. Please
ignore. I don't like to go too far off topic. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

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