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Corn Flakes

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:46 pm
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Hello All:

I have a small site under development, I was trying to make a tag-
cloud page and it can be accessed (for testing purposes, not complete
yet!) at

http://www.stutimandal.com/tags.php

I am disappointed with the look and feel of links. I want to increase
the line spacing, and I wonder if I need to switch from <ul><li><a> to
<p> <a>

Also, it would be good if I can put the links in a "text-align:
justified" manner. IE seems to fail there.

Finally, when I click the links in Firefox, the line-spacing changes
on click which is bugging me. I tried validation and only got a few
warnings related to a-styling (and I could not understand it either Smile
This onclick spacing adjustment does not happens in Opera or IE.

So any feedback on these issues will be deeply appreciated.

Thanks,
Animesh
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Corn Flakes

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:33 pm
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On Aug 12, 2:57 pm, "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorp... RemoveThis @cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> Scripsit Corn Flakes:
>
> > I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>
> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.

I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.

If you are having a bad sunday, you can buy those "hit me" balloon-
toys.
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Animesh K

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:40 pm
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On Aug 12, 2:46 pm, Corn Flakes <animesh1....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I have a small site under development, I was trying to make a tag-
> cloud page and it can be accessed (for testing purposes, not complete
> yet!) at
>
> http://www.stutimandal.com/tags.php
>
> I am disappointed with the look and feel of links. I want to increase
> the line spacing, and I wonder if I need to switch from <ul><li><a> to
> <p> <a>
>
> Also, it would be good if I can put the links in a "text-align:
> justified" manner. IE seems to fail there.
>
> Finally, when I click the links in Firefox, the line-spacing changes
> on click which is bugging me. I tried validation and only got a few
> warnings related to a-styling (and I could not understand it either Smile
> This onclick spacing adjustment does not happens in Opera or IE.
>
> So any feedback on these issues will be deeply appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Animesh

Ok I got the answers to this question using google. Ignore the
question.
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Jukka K. Korpela

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:19 pm
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Scripsit Corn Flakes:

> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page

Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.

> I am disappointed with the look and feel of links.

What links? Are there links on the page? There is nothing that looks like a
link.

> I want to increase the line spacing,

So it's not a cloud, it's just a sequence of lines with font size variation
inside them.

> and I wonder if I need to switch from <ul><li><a> to
> <p> <a>

Why would you do that? You have no <p>aragraph there.

> Also, it would be good if I can put the links in a "text-align:
> justified" manner.

No it wouldn't.

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Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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Jukka K. Korpela

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:38 am
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Scripsit Corn Flakes:

>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>
>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>
> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.

Nobody asked you to.

You posted to a public discussion forum. I explained why your idea is wrong.
That's how discussions go. If they sometimes happen to answer the question
you asked, stay alert: there is no guarantee that the answer is correct, or
that it makes anything any better.

If you're dissatisfied with this service, you can discontinue your
subscription and ask for a refund.

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Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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Bernhard Sturm

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:38 am
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Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Scripsit Corn Flakes:
>
>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>
>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>
>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>
> Nobody asked you to.
>
> You posted to a public discussion forum. I explained why your idea is
> wrong. That's how discussions go.


With all respect Yukka, you didn't explain or discussed why tag-clouds
are wrong. You said that web-pages are supposed to be useable, which is
true, but a tag-cloud can help to make a web-site very useable. So
tag-clouds are very helpful to access the content on a web-site. Please
note the difference between a page and a site, and the OP is using a
tag-cloud in a similar manner as a sitemap: as an element belonging to
the metanavigation. This has nothing to do with the webpages being
'puzzles' as you argued.

cheers
bernhard


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Animesh K

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:48 pm
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Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Scripsit Corn Flakes:
>
>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>
>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>
>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>
> Nobody asked you to.
>

What is your "why" doing up there?
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Jukka K. Korpela

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am
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Scripsit Animesh K:

> Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
>> Scripsit Corn Flakes:
>>
>>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>>
>>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>>
>>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>>
>> Nobody asked you to.
>
> What is your "why" doing up there?

It's a question about motivation. If you take it as a request to argue,
that's your choice, but nobody asked you, or "Corn Flakes", to argue.

(I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full name
to be _able_ to argue.)

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http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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Neredbojias

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am
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Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:04:20
GMT Jukka K. Korpela scribed:

> Scripsit Animesh K:
>>>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>>>
>>> Nobody asked you to.
>>
>> What is your "why" doing up there?
>
> It's a question about motivation. If you take it as a request to
> argue, that's your choice, but nobody asked you, or "Corn Flakes", to
> argue.
>
> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full
> name to be _able_ to argue.)

Perhaps you should let the lad vent. The last thing we need is another
cereal killer.

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Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.
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rf

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am
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"Neredbojias" <monstersquasher DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns998C7F7D6641nanopandaneredbojias@198.186.190.161...
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:04:20
> GMT Jukka K. Korpela scribed:

>> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full
>> name to be _able_ to argue.)
>
> Perhaps you should let the lad vent. The last thing we need is another
> cereal killer.

<groan/>

And I was going to say that lots of good stuff [1] comes out of cornflake
packets.

You _must_ search the tag cloud for one that leads to a 404 (anything past
the first page). They *demand* your email address before they let you tell
them about it. Don't they ever look at error.log? Smile

[1] HTML degrees, drezigner licences, tag clouds, ...

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Neredbojias

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am
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Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:05:02
GMT rf scribed:

>>> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her
>>> full name to be _able_ to argue.)
>>
>> Perhaps you should let the lad vent. The last thing we need is
>> another cereal killer.
>
> <groan/>

<he he/>

> And I was going to say that lots of good stuff [1] comes out of
> cornflake packets.

Yeah. Probably dorayme, fer instance...

> You _must_ search the tag cloud for one that leads to a 404 (anything
> past the first page). They *demand* your email address before they let
> you tell them about it. Don't they ever look at error.log? Smile
>
> [1] HTML degrees, drezigner licences, tag clouds, ...

Do you realize that I have absolutely no idea what a "tag cloud" is?
Somebody was talking about a "cron job" the other day, too, and -phffft!
But ignorance is bliss, -at least in the sense that I hardly need any more
things to cause me aggravation.

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Animesh K

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:16 pm
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Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Scripsit Animesh K:
>
>> Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
>>> Scripsit Corn Flakes:
>>>
>>>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>>>
>>> Nobody asked you to.
>>
>> What is your "why" doing up there?
>
> It's a question about motivation. If you take it as a request to argue,
> that's your choice, but nobody asked you, or "Corn Flakes", to argue.
>
> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full
> name to be _able_ to argue.)
>

Your why followed with an explanation that web pages are supposed to be
useful. Which basically means (to a random reader, not you) that you are
telling tag clouds are not useful (or at least you don't know why it is
useful).

If names did the trick, precious.com should be the leading website ---
rather than google or orkut. Such useless generalizations don't lead
anyone anywhere.
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Animesh K

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:18 pm
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Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:04:20
> GMT Jukka K. Korpela scribed:
>
>> Scripsit Animesh K:
>>>>>>> I was trying to make a tag-cloud page
>>>>>> Why? Web pages are supposed to be useable, not puzzles.
>>>>> I don't want to argue why tags or tag-clouds are useful.
>>>> Nobody asked you to.
>>> What is your "why" doing up there?
>> It's a question about motivation. If you take it as a request to
>> argue, that's your choice, but nobody asked you, or "Corn Flakes", to
>> argue.
>>
>> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full
>> name to be _able_ to argue.)
>
> Perhaps you should let the lad vent. The last thing we need is another
> cereal killer.
>

That lad is me. I was toying with google groups a few month ago and took
that as a handle. I forgot to change it. I changed it as soon as I
noticed it.

I am not venting any anger. You should see what Jukka's replies were to
my questions. Either he was unaware of the answers, or he was wasting
his time.
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Animesh K

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:23 pm
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rf wrote:
> "Neredbojias" <monstersquasher.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns998C7F7D6641nanopandaneredbojias@198.186.190.161...
>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:04:20
>> GMT Jukka K. Korpela scribed:
>
>>> (I don't expect a person claiming "Corn Flakes" to be his or her full
>>> name to be _able_ to argue.)
>> Perhaps you should let the lad vent. The last thing we need is another
>> cereal killer.
>
> <groan/>
>
> And I was going to say that lots of good stuff [1] comes out of cornflake
> packets.
>
> You _must_ search the tag cloud for one that leads to a 404 (anything past
> the first page). They *demand* your email address before they let you tell
> them about it. Don't they ever look at error.log? Smile
>
> [1] HTML degrees, drezigner licences, tag clouds, ...
>

You suffer from selective reading. I had mentioned that the website is
under development right now [Quote -> it can be accessed (for testing
purposes, not complete yet!)].

The 404 behavior can of course be changed. But I am getting enough spam
from the contact form right now. If I remove the email id field, I will
get them even more. If you are worried, you can just enter
unknown.TakeThisOut@nosite.com and it should work.
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Animesh K

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:24 pm
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Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:05:02

>
> Do you realize that I have absolutely no idea what a "tag cloud" is?
> Somebody was talking about a "cron job" the other day, too, and -phffft!
> But ignorance is bliss, -at least in the sense that I hardly need any more
> things to cause me aggravation.
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud
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